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Seiko 3802A

Cal. 3802A was an early quartz movement with date. It was produced by Suwa Seikosha from 1972 through the 1970s and was used in mid-range Seiko models with the name 38QTC. A similar movement with day and date wheels was Cal. 3803A (38QTW) and one with no calendar complication was Cal. 3800A (38QT).

This movement was differentiated in the Cal. 38 line by its lack of the thermocompensation circuit seen in higher models and the use of a simple condenser block adjustment mechanism rather than the 9-step or variable adjusters. This meant accuracy was worse than the similar Cal. 3823A at 10 seconds per month. Yet this was still far more accurate than a contemporary mechanical chronometer. Seiko produced 13 different adjuster blocks but these are likely impossible to find, making it impossible to regulate an original Cal. 3802A movement.

This image from a Seiko Technical Guide shows the basic regulation of Cal. 380x

Like all members of the Seiko Cal. 38 family, it was fitted with 7 jewels, a large number for the time and more than most later quartz movements. Early examples used a 16 KHz crystal, but this was upgraded to 32 KHz later in the production run and many examples were retrofitted with this component. Because the adjuster was part of the circuit unit, many examples have the later variable adjuster and may therefore be as accurate as higher-end Cal. 38 movements.

Cal. 3802A was replaced by the “King Quartz” Cal. 085 later in the 1970s, though this movement remained in production for most of the decade.

Cal. 3802A Applications

Cal. 3802A was used in a variety of watches throughout the 1970s. It began in expensive steel-cased models simply labeled “Seiko Quartz QT” and using the “38QTC” name in catalogs. It was positioned below the rectangular Cal. 39 watches produced by sister company, Daini Seikosha.

By 1975, it was offered in many midrange quartz watches in the “QME” line in a variety of cases.

This 1975 Seiko catalog shows a variety of watches fitted with Cal. 3802A (38QTC)

Suwa Seikosha 38 Stream Overview

Seiko’s Cal. 38 series was the first volume-production quartz movement family from Seiko. The architecture and design set the template for all future quartz movements, and it was the premier product that pushed Seiko to the top of the watch industry in the 1970s. Cal. 38 movements were positioned in the mid-range to superior market segments, including the “QT”, “QR”, “SQ VFA”, and “GFA Superior” lines.

Seiko was quietly racing to develop a quartz watch movement in the 1960s, and delivered their first Cal. 35 movement to the Neuchatel Observatory in late 1967, just a few months after the CEH delivered their “Beta” quartz movement prototypes. A product of Suwa Seikosha, Cal. 35A used a 8,192 Hz of 16,384 Hz quartz crystal and an integrated circuit from Intersil in the USA. Seiko offered Cal. 35 SQ for sale in the Seiko Astron watch on Christmas Day, 1969, with 100 examples sold in the first month. Suwa rival Daini Seikosha developed their own movement, Cal. 36, and launched it in 1970, but neither movement was truly produced in volume.

Cal. 380x were the lower-end movements but were still accurate to 2 minutes per year. However these movements lacked any adjustment beyond replacement of the condenser block. Cal. 382x included a thermocompensation circuit and was accurate to 1 minute per year. It could be regulated using a step variable condenser. All basic movements used 7 jewels: Two each on the third wheel, sweep second wheel, and step rotor, and another used on the seconds hand finger.

Suwa Seikosha 38 Stream Technology

Suwa Seikosha developed Cal. 38 as a full-production midrange to high-end quartz movement, and it incorporates many features that now seem commonplace but were groundbreaking at the time. The quartz crystal oscillated at 16,384 Hz and it used a CMOS integrated circuit to reduce battery consumption, though later examples used a 32 KHz crystal. The hands were operated by a stepper motor and a jeweled backlash pin ensured a smooth dead beat seconds hand. The earliest examples were sold as “VFA” (“Very Fine Adjustment”) and were adjusted for temperature and in 6 positions.

Early examples of Cal. 3823 use a large 16 KHz quartz tube and unusual “step variable condenser” regulation system using multiple contacts for variable resistance. The design was evolved over time to use a more integrated quartz module and smaller ICs as technology advanced. The final Cal. 3823A had a small 32 KHz quartz tube and modern screw-type trimmer condenser for adjustment. The circuit block and crystal oscillator were also combined in later examples. These components could be retrofitted to earlier movements, and many were during service. 16 KHz examples are rare today.

These movements were produced in larger volume but were still quite high-end compared to mass-market quartz watches later in the 1970s.

This 1974 Seiko catalog showed the virtues of the Superior Quartz Cal. 3883

Suwa Seikosha 38 Stream Family

All 38×3 movements were branded “38SQW” or “38QTW” and included day and date. Cal. 38×2 is branded “38QTC” and is date-only. Cal. 38×0 was branded “38SQ” and lacks the calendar function.

One unusual (and rare) version is Cal. 3819A, used in “38DQC” models called Dual-Zone Timer. This was Seiko’s first GMT quartz watch. Even rare is Cal. 3870A, a time-only version used as “38RW” in Seiko’s first quartz railway watch, model QYE010 (3870-0010).

LineTime-OnlyDateDay/DateSuccessor
QR3862
38QRC
3863
38QRW
084
“Lord Quartz”
QT3800
38QT
3802
38QTC
3803
38QTW
085
“King Quartz”
SQ (VFA)3820
38SQ
3823
38SQW
48
“Grand Quartz”
GFA Superior3882388348
“Superior”
Dual-Zone
Timer
3819
38DQC
Railway3870
38RW

The 38SQ “VFA” line was replaced by the 48GQ “Grand Quartz” and 48SQ “Superior” line. The 38QT “QT” line was replaced by the 08KQ “King Quartz”, 38QR “Lord Quartz”, and 08QT line. The QR line of watches were replaced by the cheaper “Type II” models.

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